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The Hitchhiker's Guide to Critique by akreon The Hitchhiker's Guide to Critique by akreon
A little follow up to:


Since a lot of people seem to have problems with it, here is a little tutorial how to give and take critique and how not to be a giant vagina about it.

Any resemblance to actual events or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental.
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So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
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I love this! The bunnies are so darn cute! The expressions are the best part. My favorites are the Pouty Princess and the slightly skeptical artist-bunny at the bottom middle! :meow:

I think the piece is well executed, and the point is very clear. Your characterizations are so dead on, I honestly laughed as I read them. :lmao: It's also a great topic that we can all relate to! Everyone has given and received a critique at some point in their lives; Your essay, your art, and your driving are all examples of things that can be improved with helpful input from others. Heck, you can even critique this critique! ;)

While I love Hitchhiker's Guide, I don't know that the bunnies really fit that theme. That doesn't detract from the piece or the point, but when I read the title I was expecting something different.

Thanks Akreon for making this guide! I think it can help a lot of people be more effective at giving and receiving criticism. Thanks for reading! - Celadon Catamount :meow:
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120 out of 126 deviants thought this was fair.

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i do actually like these , and i wish you'd do more on other subjects , as well. not to suck up, but i enjoy your insight [ and occasional venom].
the star-system is arbitrary and near-useless , but......

vision: based on follow-up , so only 4
originality:based on follow-up, but well-expounded on , so 3.5
technique:lacks expansive panorama in 36 shades of orange . 3 stars
impact: i loved it. it amused the hell out of me while covering what is most annoying about feedback and critique systems. a full 5 stars!

like many realistically grounded artists, i'm my most harsh critic . i feel that nearly none of my work, other than a few mildly interesting items is worth putting up; and i tend to give my work to anyone interested in it [ that got me on an fbi watch-list for a couple years for being published in a "questionable" periodical :) ]
nevertheless , i'd agree that any artist asking [ or receiving unasked ] for comments and critiques needs to cave a barrel of salt handy.

'cause if you aren't using a pinch for the comments, you can mummify the bodies... ;)
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IceFireDrag Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much for this! I know you posted this a while ago, but it still helps. I love the bunnies and the expressions on their faces
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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Edited Dec 2, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I've dealt with passive-aggressive douchebags before. 

They both acted like my art was the worst thing they have ever seen, insulted it, and used it against my credibility, and also used it against me personally. They were super rude. 

It basically went down like

Critic: This is the most horrifying/worst thing I've seen in my life!

Me: What? There is no need to be rude.

Critic: I am a critic. I am not supposed to be polite/nice/passive. Now take my constructive criticism or shut up!

Me: Constructive Criticism? All you did was make a rude comment on how "horrible my drawing is". I am willing to take constructive criticism, but you are doing it wrong.

Critic: If you were to go to art school, the teachers will just be like me.

Me: One, I am not going to Art School. Second, I don't think teachers in art school call a drawing "shit" without leaving proper feedback.

Critic: Lol, you know nothing about life!

Me: What does have to do with this!?

Critic: You are butthurt.

Me: No, I just want proper criticism, not some rude comment saying how bad I suck at art.

Critic: LOLOL. Keep crying, you shitty artist. You are a shitty artist because you draw Sonic!!!!



The strange thing is that one of these "critics" had very crappy drawings in their gallery (much lower than my skill level at the time). The person said they could take constructive criticism, but when given constructive criticism, they threw a fit. This person was actually a Pouty-Princess and Self Proclaimed Pro combo.

The other "critic" literally had nothing in their gallery at all. And a self proclaimed pro.
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RoguishBard Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I just ran into a Pouty Princess a little while ago.

And I quote:

"anyways i shouldn've said 'constructive criticizem' i didn't even read your comment, more so skimmed through it. I already have good advice from understanding people, I don't need your two cents worth."

So essentially she told me "fuck off" and closed the thread immediately. Also "criticizem".

I hope that she took the similar advice of another artist I saw there, otherwise there will be another Enoby unleashed upon the world...
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MaryBethDarcy Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I love this.  A critique of anything is at it's heart a subjective opinion.  That opinion is suppose to help the recipient.  If you can't provide a reason for you like or dislike of something, then you are not helping the recipient.  I behooves both criticizer and recipient to be open minded.
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reaperproject Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014  Professional Writer
I get the pouty princess and the stylist a lot in response to literary critiques.  I find it odd when they say it is their style to spell words incorrectly or to forgo any form of punctuation.  I know most art is open to interpretation, but with literature there are a few guidelines we all follow so things can be understood clearly.  Great idea and execution.
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Bulbamario Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Pouty princesses.... Pouty princesses everywhere.
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josegoncalo Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Girlfoxgirl Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student Writer
God, this piece's extreme accuracy is very much appreciated. I have seen so many of the don'ts. So... many. It is extremely painful.
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SybilaSulfur Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
God, damn you! I've lost the Game :P
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HollyWren Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014
What a wonderful tutorial! So adorable too! 
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Oseviel Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Good art piece, love the subject!
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Cheeyev Featured By Owner May 30, 2014
pretty good! Don't listen to that LOL freak, this is awesome.
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SuperNanafu Featured By Owner May 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You had me at the hitchhiker's guide to critique. It would have been really fun if the rabbits had been mice instead XD But I really like it! Some people need this guide :D
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Blasterfreund Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Excuse me, just so everybody knows... THIS! THIIISSS!
they should hand this out to everyone signing up to deviant art, it would save a lot butt-hurt and create an all around more respectful environment... though the trolls still won't stop.
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Kittycatz22 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014
The leaves need more of an outline c:
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Flameshadow117 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So good! So true!!! Yess! If only everyone on the internet and real life for that matter behaved like the bottom row. *longing*
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Tujima Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really wish people would be more open to critiques - but at the same time, I wish the people that gave them wouldn't be bigots. 
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Storytelleri Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Nice sum up. :D
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Witchcat95 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
I've met those types of people, not just in the art world, but in the regular world too.
Your images and descriptions of each type are spot-on, well done!
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piggie4299 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Professional Artisan Crafter
So very true and presented in such a cute way!
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SparkKnight2 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Like most great things it is a awesome idea, but in practice it wouldn't work. 
I WISH IT DID! XD
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RurouniGundam Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is something that should be spread around, Thank you for this!
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Bluefire-Amaterasu Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you very much for that tutorial. :la: I've seen your deviation some loooong time ago, but didn't comment...Shame on me. But it helped me a lot! 

I remember that I once received a critique and wasn't very happy about it. I felt really offended by how he wrote the critique. He made comparisons that really don't belong in a critique. I was kinda mad at him and stuff... But I still roll my eyes cause of my reaction. I should have just thanked him for the critique, the time he spent writing it and tell him that I don't agree in many parts, but it's nice to see another point of view. Just like you said in your tutorial. 
After viewing your tutorial it was so easy for me to accept critique (constructive or not) and react just how I should. Now I'm really happy and grateful for every critique I receive and I try my best to write thoughtful comments and critiques that might help other deviants. 
Well, thanks again. :D
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axelfirekirby Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Am I doing critiques right?
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MataRahi Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student
Very useful information, thank you for making this! :3
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wezenbeesje Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
Haha, I've seen that stylist defend a lot of times when I gave some tips.
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kohsayo Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013
I wonder what category jacobyel would fall under?
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Punisher2006 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist
This...is...perfect!  It is awesome and explains both sides of the critique. (It is a two way street.) and the most common problems. I am so glad to see this.  :+fav:

The bunnies are so cute.

I think everyone should see this.  Everyone.
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Kirara-nYaN Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This guide is very helpful indeed! I love how you made things straight-forward and easy to understand. And, most of the terms you used are pretty funny, especially the 'pouty princess'

And lastly, I'm so glad that I'm not one of the incorrects there! :iconinulolplz:
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LucidKitsune Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013   Traditional Artist
Love this. It's totally accurate :D
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axelfirekirby Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
now do one for commenting on critiques
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AK-I-T Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And now I feel bad cos Ive done the Pouty Princess thing before .-. by accident but now that I look at it I sure as hell acted like an idiot *facepalm* well it may have been by accident but it still counts I guess... I gotta revise how I react.... oh boy
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Firefairy001 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can someone quickly explain to me this 'the game' thing is?
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Girlfoxgirl Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Student Writer
It's a silly thing. By thinking about it, you lose. When you lose, you shout out that you lost. Then someone else will see/hear it and have to say they just lost the game, too. ..Yep.
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Firefairy001 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh,
so that's why a friend of mine was cackling so loudly when he wrote that in pen in my sketchbook...
who even comes up with these things
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Girlfoxgirl Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Student Writer
I have no idea who does. ^^; It's like chain mail for real life. -.-"
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UsagiToxic Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

If a "critic" can't explain, why a change is needed, it is a piece of shit, not a critic. 


The critic bunny here can't.


Therefore it's a piece of shit at every instance.


The end.

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X-SYNERGY-X Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Finally some of with info for the A**HOLES that critic me! (had one person just say it was shi* and I am a fuc*ing bad artist, then just go 'winvw vhwuinc' for the rest of it >:T )
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Lizlovestoons12 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Say, I kinda like this guide! :thumbsup:
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If there's one thing you forgot, it's that OTHER range of the pissed-off critiqued. But that's understandable. I've been there. I've been it. There's a reason why nobody likes to talk about it.
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tulakalbeyo Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
hey? can i have permission to translate this into spanish? i'd be very useful tool in several art workshops i participate in! thanks!
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CandleBell Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
You are my hero. :giggle:
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hefeigal Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Brilliant. Utterly brilliant. :love: 
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thissucksdaddy Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
Nice opportunity
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zizzleplix Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
Funny and informative, the best combo. It shows with critique, both sides are capable of handling it wrong: The artist for reacting poorly to criticism and the critic for giving either giving a poor critique in the first place (ex: ur art sucks bro lol XD )or reacting poorly to the response by the artist. I've encountered most types of wrong and right displayed here (most notably the pouty princess and passive-aggressive douchebag).
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OctaviaSketch Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha, well, nice title, and I like the categories. I HAVE A FRIENDS ALMOST JUST LIKE THE STYLIST!! omg! XD She either says it her "style" or that she was planning on fixing it, even though it was obvious she wasn't...guh, so annoying!
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